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How does Allha select his prophets and messangers, any criteria or tests?  
Were these messangers and prophets predestined?  
 
Add Your Comments  Question by: MOHYAM On Monday, March 08, 2010
Comments by: aurangzaib On Monday, March 08, 2010
Dear brother Mohyam,  
 
The nature of relationship between Allah and His chosen messengers and the mode of their mutual-communication are the subject of speculative imagination since times immemorial. In my opinion, we can only add to this speculative verbiage if we also start debating these topics.  
 
However, the modern intellectual and logical explanation of this phenomena is that it has been classified and categorized under the branch of knowledge called "parapsychology". Again, parapsychology deals only with SUPPOSED mental occurrences that cannot be explained and are not proved by psychological principles and norms. So, it is only suppositions and speculations. All the advancement of knowledge and wisdom is helpless in this regard.  
 
I think we better not open such topics where we cannot be sure of our thoughts and expressions.  
I also think that in Quran, we are particularly forbidden to involve in this exercise.  
 
God bless you.

Comments by: Maniza On Tuesday, March 09, 2010
Asalama,  
 
I agree we should not involve ourselves into the discussion of the Prophets being predestined, but Prophets are tested, as it is revealed in the Quran, to Moses, Ibrahim, Younas, Yousaf , and Mohammed also was an orphan etc, in the Quran Lord Almighty says to Moses, "we tested you when you killed a man by hitting him " i think there are many examples where Prophets are tested ..  
just my humble opnion.  

Comments by: MohYam On Tuesday, March 09, 2010Report Abuse
Why there had been no female prophets or messengers?particularly in Islam.  
On the predestination of prophets,we should not close the chapter but should seek more relevant answers from other sources too.May be there are answers to it.we just dont knkow.  

Comments by: aurangzaib On Wednesday, March 10, 2010
The chapter is open dear brother Mohyam.  
The point however still is that whatever we all would express in this regard would only be speculation. we would only discuss suppositions.  
I hope some knowledgable brothers would throw more light on this topic.

Comments by: Maniza On Saturday, March 13, 2010
Salam,  
I think it is important that we discuss such a topic as predestiny, it is a subject which mankind has always asked, and i have just started to study the Quran so inshaAllah i will have the answer one day or Dr.Q can answer for us..  
God Almighty says that this Quran is from a mother of books which is safe with your Lord.. so that means prophets are predestined..( i think )  
secondly it is hard for a woman to be a Prophet because she is a very emotional being, and I know how hard it is to preach and follow Quran only because of the bashing i get from my family.. men are more mentaly and physicaly hard for this mission. But prophets have made mistakes aswell when we read the Quran we understand that, they were only men, and mankind makes mistakes..  
another thing to remember with kismet or destiny,, if there is for us normal people, then how come we will stand up for what we did on judgment day? if we were predestined then we should not be able to that cos God had already destined that we would do this and do that...

Comments by: moazzam On Wednesday, April 21, 2010
Sister Maniza/Brother Aurangzaib regards,the verse 2/129 describes the duties assigned to rasool,it means any body who is performing the same ,falls in the categorg of rasool.and rasools will remain in the societies till the dooms day.Go through 2/129,3/164,10/74,16/36,16/89,17/15,28/59,40/34,also the comments of opponents (non- believers)are the evidence ,that the rasools are not predestined supper humen see verse 17/94,25/41.The story of prophit Ibraheem verse 2/124, and the whole story of prophit musa along with prophit Haroon ,also vers7/124 ,20/13 shows the teting and selection criteria as a rasool/nabi(but there is difference between nabi & rasool).In my opinion sister Maniza is correct in some limitations.

Comments by: Maniza On Thursday, April 22, 2010
Dear brother peace and blessings,  
 
Indeed the quran is refered to as the "rasool" (messenger) in the Holy Book itself, every person who relays the message of the Quran is a messenger aswell, the end of Prophets (Nabi's)but the Messengers will go on untill the Day of Ressurection.

Comments by: ali.haideer On Sunday, June 20, 2010Report Abuse
Brother moazum regards, ap kehte hain (there is difference b/w nabi and rasool) to Allama Perveez Sahab k kitab "Khatme Nabowat Aur Tehreke Ahmadiyat" ka ap ne zaror mutala kia hoga us mein ye baat bhoot sarahat k sath batae hai k Quran ne aik he rasool ko aik jaga Nabi kaha hai to dosri janib Rasool. pher agar ap k ye baat man li jae k silsilae rasol taqayamat jare rahe ga to pher Qadiyani apne maslak mein yahan tak to theik manein jaein ge k Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani un k rasool hain pher agar rasool ta qayamat ate rahein ge to Imam Mehdi nam k farzi kirdar ka bhe wajood hosakta hai. plz make your point more clear.

Comments by: moazzam On Monday, June 21, 2010 Edit Delete
Brother Ali Haider !assalam o alaikum,my dear it should be noted that 1:- the silsala e rusul for the guidance of mankind is given in quran the relevant verses regarding same are quoted ,this is as I understood through these verses. 2:- The criteria for the judgment of rasool is performance of his duties/assignment in his nation as per verse 2/129 . 3:-As for as the defference between Nabi & Rasool is concerns, read the verse 2/353 all nabi are rasool,but all rasool are not nabi because of his especial power to appoint the highest level attorney in his state see the vers 2/246—247. 4:- As for as qaddianys are concerns, I gone through the book”QADYANI MAZHAB KA ILMI MUHASBAH” by prof: mohammad ilyas barni, I did not find Mr. Ghulam ahmad Qadyani at the criteria of rasool/nabi given in quran.The "Mohammad as a khatamunnabien"need to be elaborated in the light of aforesaid verses.5:-The stories about Imam mehdi,Fitna e dajjal,Nozool e masih,Yajooj maajooj'Ikhraj al dabba,Nishani qurb e qiyamat etc ,are dogmas,no reality no fact some are multilated translation of quranic verses and some are their garbled and chaos stories( borowed from other religions)in their devastated islam.  

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