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 | Is saying Allah-o-Akbar OK? I feel that it is not right. |
 | Comments by: Adnan Khan On Monday, March 08, 2010 | Report Abuse | |
| Dear Mr. Anwer:
I think to say ALLAH-O-AKBER is absolutely RIGHT... because it means Allah Sab se barha hai... it is obvious that Allah is undoubtedly MIGTHIER THAN EVERY ONE....... | |
| Comments by: Maniza On Monday, March 08, 2010 |  | |
| Salama dear bhai,
I think i read the same as you from different people on why saying Allah hu Akbar was wrong, that it was not in the Quran.. but many of Allahs names are not in the Quran, they are all comparisons, yani AlRehman.. sub seh Reham wala, so the same is for Allah hu Akbar,, sub sey Bara.. dont feel guilty if Akhtar Sherazi and Edip Layth mean its not in the Quran you cant say it according to them. | |
| Comments by: Anwer Suri On Tuesday, March 09, 2010 | Report Abuse | |
| My understanding is not due to any other reason but based on the following which can be wrong because I don't know Arabic,
The word ‘Akbar’ is used in Quran in many verses, some of them are 6:78, 4:153, 3:118, 2:219, 2:217, 9:3, 9:72, 10:61, 12:31, 16:41, 17:21, 29:45. This word is translated by different English translators as ‘worse’, ‘great’, ‘greater’ and ‘greatest’ etc.
The common factor in all the translations (in my opinion) is that this word is used to compare one thing with other of same kind.
When we say ‘Allah is Greatest’ this gives an impression that there are several gods and Allah is the greatest among them (Naooz-u-billah).
In verse 29:45 this word is used in relation to Allah SWT as ‘and remembrance of Allah is the greatest’. This verse is telling that we can compare the remembrance of Allah SWT with other remembrance but we cannot find a single place where Quran said that Allah is Akbar.
I think we may not say ‘Allah is greatest’ for at least two reasons.
1. Allah did not use Akbar for Himself.
2. Verse ‘112:4 And there is none comparable unto Him’ is announcing that we cannot compare Allah SWT.
I think 'Ar-Rahman' means 'The Beneficent' and if I am not wrong then ‘The’ means one of its kind which is incomparable. | |
| Comments by: moazzam On Tuesday, March 09, 2010 | | |
| Allah ho Akbar , you just imagine (Allah's law of univers working upoun all creation). For example the rule of law in the state is greater than any one holding power in any office.The cofusion arrises when we concider the Allah Almighty as a substance or a body. Saying Allah ho akbar mostly before any big adventurious job is the recall of yor plan,that must be sychronised with allah's law ,to get success. | |
| Comments by: Anwer Suri On Wednesday, March 10, 2010 | Report Abuse | |
| I did not understand your response completely but I woul like to add the following to explain my point a little bit more.
If we say that Allah’s law are greatest or Allah’s remembrance is greatest then we are not talking about Allah Himself but when we say ‘Allah is greatest’ then we are comparing Allah Himself. To compare there should be some other of similar properties. Which in this case I think is like admitting that there are others but Allah is the greatest (Naozubillah) and is not in agreement with basic belief that there is no god but He (Allah SWT).
2:163 And your Allah is One Allah. There is no god but He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. | |
| Comments by: aurangzaib On Sunday, March 14, 2010 | | |
| Dear friends,
Allah is a compound of al and ilah, meaning ‘the absolute authority’.
1. Some people conceive Him as a ‘Supreme Being’
2. Others conceive Him as ‘the Supreme Law’
Those of us who think He is a ‘Supreme Being’ are wary of drawing comparisons with Him as they believe He is beyond all comparisons. So they maintain that to say ‘Akbar’ along with His name is not right. But if He is being compared with worldly gods, e.g., George Bush, Faroahs of Egypt or Namrood or great emperors of the past or with other idols of worship or deities, then to say He is ‘Akbar’ seems quite OK.
Those of us, who take Him as ‘the Supreme Law’, can also compare Him with all the man-made laws which are always in some degree faulty, short-sighted or having selfish and discriminative motives. So, they can also say Allah, the Supreme Law, is the greatest of all laws that is, pure, impartial and is concerned with the welfare of all the humanity collectively.
So brothers, where is the point of debate here?
And I do think that to discuss the ‘attributes of Allah’ or ‘His person’ has always been futile over the last many millennia. In the Muslim history, the ‘Mo’tazillahs’ have excelled in this field during the early Abbaside period. There discussions and debates on the topic of ‘tanzeeh-e-zaat’ and ‘nafi-e-sifaat’ were based on imaginative logic called ‘ilm-ul-kalaam’. Neither could they gain any insight into Allah’s person, nor afforded any benefit to the Muslim community, culture or civilization. Instead, sectarianism was promoted and a lot of blood shed resulted therefrom.
God bless you all.
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| Comments by: talibquran On Tuesday, April 20, 2010 | Report Abuse | |
| brother aurangzaib & all, salaam
I strongly believe that to utter the word ' Allahu Akbar ' is shirq. Allah has defined Himself in a very short chapter #112.
He is Ahad and Samad. Question of comparison does not arise.
You quote:
Allah is a compound of al and ilah, meaning ‘the absolute authority’.
1. Some people conceive Him as a ‘Supreme Being’
2. Others conceive Him as ‘the Supreme Law’
God is beyond our conception!
My question is: Why Allah has not used the word 'Akbar' with any of His attributes?
My answer is: God wants us to develop these attributes. God is not boasting Himself or self-praising. No- not-at-all!!
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Note: It is a duty of a every Momin to create an environment of Blessing in this world. Not God. He has already blessed us with His Sculptures. Please do not throw your duty at God. Please stop requesting/ordering God for Blessing etc.
I hope am not rude!
Take care
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| Comments by: aurangzaib On Tuesday, April 20, 2010 | | |
| Dear brother Talibquran,
Your comment does not contradict my opinion. You will note that I have not taken any sides on this debate. But have tried to prove the futility of discussions on this particular point.
I don't know why we arrange to confront each other on topics that are of no avail to human sufferings and to setting up a peaceful human social structure.
If you necessarily want a running brook of thought, not a stagnant and dead pond of smelling water, there are many other topics that you can open up for verbal exchanges and reflections. Please do not make the PERSON or the ATTRIBUTES of Allah Almighty a point of debate.
Kindly go through the last paragraph of my earlier post above.
By "throwing your duty at God", you are suggesting a topic that is totally irrelevant to the present discussion. I cannot see any connectivity or contextual relation with it.
No brother, you are not rude at all. And hopefully you won't find anyone rude here. We are determined to maintain a congenial and brotherly atmosphere, aimed at learning and evolution.
God bless you. | |
| Comments by: aurangzaib On Tuesday, April 20, 2010 | | |
| Dear brother Talibquran,
Your comment does not contradict my opinion. You will note that I have not taken any sides on this debate. But have tried to prove the futility of discussions on this particular point.
I don't know why we arrange to confront each other on topics that are of no avail to human sufferings and offer no clue towards setting up a peaceful human social structure.
If you necessarily want a running brook of thought, not a stagnant and dead pond of smelling water, there are many other topics that you can open up for verbal exchanges and reflections. Please do not make the PERSON or the ATTRIBUTES of Allah Almighty a point of debate.
Kindly go through the last paragraph of my earlier post above.
By "throwing your duty at God", you are suggesting a topic that is totally irrelevant to the present discussion. I cannot see any connectivity or contextual relation with it.
No brother, you are not rude at all. And hopefully you won't find anyone rude here. We are determined to maintain a congenial and brotherly atmosphere, aimed at learning and evolution.
God bless you. | |
| Comments by: Anwer Suri On Wednesday, April 21, 2010 | Report Abuse | |
| Brother Aurangzeb,
“I don't know why we arrange to confront each other on topics that are of no avail to human sufferings and offer no clue towards setting up a peaceful human social structure. “
I am really impressed by your knowledge of history and understanding of the Quran and feel that I can learn from you.
First I want to clarify that I opened this topic to understand that do other feels the same way or it is just my misunderstanding. I didn’t know that my intention will be judged.
I was looking for just a straight forward reply but it seems that it became complicated.
I am trying to learn and I found this blog a good learning place especially Dr Qamar Zaman is a very good source of learning.
I think no questions are bad questions but answers can be bad or good. I want to ask with positive intention any question that will be bothering me. But I think I should be careful because you may not like every question.
I think no one is perfect and how you can determine if the topics will avail to human suffering and will help set up a peaceful social structure without proving it?
Wassalam
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| Comments by: aurangzaib On Wednesday, April 21, 2010 Edit Delete | | |
| Dear brother Anwar Suri,
There can be no binding on questioning as we wish to make it a free and open blog.
However, it is a good advice to spend time and energy on productive and creative topics. You would agree to that, I hope.
We are only right if our answers lead friends towards mental evolution and towards ways to solve countless problems facing the humanity.
The solutions are concealed in the understanding of Quranic tenets that relate to how human beings should live and interact in order to have a life free from fear, despair, hunger and miseries. And this blog, under this aim, is trying to disseminate the most progressive and genuine Quranic interpretations.
If you go through the last paragraph of my first response, you will realize that discussions on such topics have aired differences and caused splits in the past, resulting into a lot of bloodshed. It is for this reason that I emphasize upon friends that such discussions are an exercise in futility.
In response to your last question, I invite you to explain how your topic can work towards the solution of our present problems.
Questions are not good or bad, in my opinion. Questions essentially are useful and useless. Questions are worth spending your time and energy on, and questions are worthless and aiming towards confrontations, split and unnecessary verbal exercises.
The above is just a piece of advice. Kindly feel free to say whatever you like.
God bless you. | |
| OTHER QUESTIONS ON | | MISCONCEPTIONS |
| | | Dear Dr Qamar sahib,
When I read 2:106, I feel that this verse is not about the abrogation but about a general law of Allah SWT for all things He creates. Do you think this is correct understanding? Could not elaborate due to space limit. Wassalam. Question by: Anwer Suri On 2/28/2010
| | | Dr. Qamarzaman regar plz elaborate.Sending massengers in each nation ammongst them to distinguesh HAQ& BATIL when ever mankind detrack. 16/36,3/164,2/129,9/128,40/34,28/59,39/71,3/101,20/134,23/32 is this sunnattullah is going on,if not why imparity. Question by: moazzam On 3/19/2010
| | | dear Dr Qamarzaman sahib thankyou for your quick repply regarding Allah's massengers in each society in his own languages.Kindly differenciate between RASOOL and NABI,keeping in view ayat no A- 22/52 , B-33/28,32,53,59 C-49/2 and specially 33/40. Question by: moazzam On 3/24/2010
| | | Dear sir,
in an islamic state,minorities are at their own liberty to live with their own ways.This way,there will be two systems in a single state.this divides human beings into two parts.(question part 1) Question by: m.einstien On 4/17/2010
| | | Q- Quran codes Essa words, mere bad Ahmad aega. Jab keh Quran Muhammad k waseela se btata hae k Ahmad aya aur us ko Bani Isril ne jhutlaya. Pls wazaht kren k Essa k bad aur Muhammad se pehle Ahmad kab aaey ? Question by: Aftab On 4/18/2010
| | | AOA,
What is "sabbath' according to Quran? Question by: Anwer Suri On 5/10/2010
| | | Respected sir
Can you throw light on the marriages of the holh prophet and the age of hazrat Ayesha Also why does this disparity exisists ie all other men are allowed to have only 4 wives? Question by: lubna asif On 4/26/2010
| | | Salaam Dr. sahib, could you please explain 37:102-108. what is the dream, the test and how was ismail ransomed?
Question by: shireen On 6/8/2010
| | | Dr. Qamar zaman sahib,Aurangzaib bhai,All executive members, dear all members of aastana blog. Assalam o alaikum wa rahmatullah. plz read the food for thought and comment.
Question by: moazzam On 6/21/2010
| | | Dr. Sahab and Aurangzeb Bhai I have to ask a question regarding Nabowat and Risalat, Is silsilae Nabowat and Risalat is still continue, I am further explaining my question by giving comments on it.
Question by: ali.haideer On 7/11/2010
| | | Dr. Sahab and Aurangzeb Bhai I have to ask a question regarding Nabowat and Risalat, Is silsilae Nabowat and Risalat still continue, I am further explaining my question by giving comment on it.
Question by: agha_sanaullah On 7/11/2010
| | | Kia mazaarat per jaa kar wahan per kuch mangna “Shirk” Kehlaega kia ye un logon ko Khuda manna nahi (please urdu me define karein it is asked by someone.) Question by: Dr. Samreen Mohsin On 8/16/2010
| | | kindly elaborate regarding descending of Quran in Ramazan. it is said that quran is completed in 21 years but completed in Ramzan. Allama Pervez also agreed with this. please explain. Question by: Dr. Samreen Mohsin On 9/6/2010
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