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All the executive members are requested to please filter the blog time to time and remove irrelevant comments so that it may become easy for casual readers to comprehend the topic easily.
Add Your Comments  Question by: ALI.HAIDEER On 18 June 2011
Comments by: ali.haideer On 18 June 2011Report Abuse
Many important topics are being discussed over here and for many people who don't regularly monitor the blog it becomes difficult to go through all the discussions. This step will save the time of such users b/c many times comments are irrelevant and are of no use......there for it is requested to all of you to make a policy for that.......  
Those executive members who are involved in answering a particular question should filter the discussion at the end of that topic and if possible remove all comments and summaries the entire discussion by just copy and paste the comments.....please do such a thing.......

Comments by: pervez On 18 June 2011Report Abuse
Good suggestion.

Comments by: Nargis On 18 June 2011Report Abuse
yes, Especially posts containing nothing but irrelevant cheer leading and Ghalibs poems. and same questions posed over and over again from same users or members of their group- like who wrote the Quran wahy thing or intervention of God in the universe or life after death.

Comments by: pervez On 19 June 2011Report Abuse
Dear brother Ali haider,  
So you are miles away from me. Azizullah Bohio knows me.All Quranic people in Rawalpindi  
and Islamabad know me. So you can find me easily.I would have answered your question as to why  
I disagree with Allama Niaz Fateh Puri, but I think I should discuss with you whenever you meet me.  
Come along with Bohio. We will talk. For the time being keep thinking/meditating with these concepts  
and see where you land up and than your eyes will be opened, try.  
Concept of Allama Niaz Fateh Puri is more or less the same regarding Prophet, Allah and Wahi  
as is discussed here. Than there was another person Qasim Noori who was of the same  
opinion. Remember these thoughts are not new at all. I kept thinking over these concepts  
over years, discussed with many learned people , meditated day and night and finally  
rejected. But I always say that one should never be rigid and should accept the truth  
even at the last breath of his life. I don't want to get into this discussion here. People  
are already discussing and more will discuss in future. Let them get a chance. I have  
already discussed all important topics on this forum and taken out the juice and benefited  
whether I agreed or disagreed.Truth will come out.  
You may like to discuss with other members. As for as I am concerned we agree to disagree.

Comments by: ali.haideer On 19 June 2011Report Abuse
Thanks Brother......

Comments by: William On 19 June 2011Report Abuse
Dear pervez,  
I am of the opinion that a good discussion involves individuals who provide opinions, theories and arguments based on facts, evidence or proof that ultimately substantiates their claims, especially when it concerns the Quran.  
As we have come to realise, there are many inaccuracies in the orthodox translations, which have spurred fallacious ideologies. It is therefore our responsibility to analyse the Quranic content in order to sieve out the spurious assertions that have been floating throughout the ages.  
Preconceived ideas and held beliefs, (which we are all well aware of) are only apparent due to conventional translations. Such beliefs have no bearing or impact on the actual content of the Quran. For instance, one may believe that “prayer” is mentioned within the Quran, however in reality “Salah” could be considered to be a system of administration / governance. If an individual believes in “angels”, his or her given belief will not have any effect on the quintessence of the Quran.  
In order to ascertain the truth, namely the core concepts of the Quran, we will need to discuss the syntax, grammar, root meanings of each verse and the subject of the chapter to reach a solid conclusion. During a debate, participants present their view, opinions, arguments, reasoning, facts and information (including their sources). Discussions regarding the Quran should therefore encompass references from the Quran, Arabic lexicons, books, along with any other supporting evidence that will corroborate statements / theories.  
Your participation in discussions seems very eccentric! Orthodox translations are scrutinised and assessed; proof and rational explanations are provided as to why specific content is not Quranic. Yet you present traditional translations to refute explanations, you rely on the works of previous scholars to back up your opinions / beliefs.  
You claim to be here to learn and to grasp innovative concepts and theories presented, but disregard details and points raised, without any solid reasoning. If you already have knowledge and have thought about “these concepts over years, discussed with many learned people , meditated day and night and finally rejected” why are you here?  
You created several I.Ds, proclaiming that it was a strategy of trying to “involve others to discuss issues from all angles”. Why is that necessary? Everyone is already aware of Allama Parwez’s work along with many other scholars. Individuals have a choice to either accept explanations or reject them! They have the option to pose questions or provide their own arguments or knowledge!  
In many of your posts you have shown aggression. You have been rude, condescending and very outrageous in your claims. You are openly hateful and extremely obnoxious; having no sense of propriety. Everyone on this forum is witness to your behaviour. Rather than provide a response which includes grammatical analysis, all your efforts are put into attempting to discredit individuals in order to misdirect the course of the discussion!  
Why are you here? Obviously you are not here to learn, so what are your intentions?  

Comments by: Nargis-Badshah-Salamat On 19 June 2011Report Abuse
Ok I'm not that smart, because I do not understand how one can reject anything on the basis of faith?  
How can we discuss for years with empty talk based on what one believes and guess, without reference to grammar, text in the Quran, which requires that you use certain methods to approach the message?  
Because i dont understand what their end results, conclusions are based on, who "guessed" best? Or "best belief of the group"? or "better than best assumprion of the year"?  
sometimes i get sentimental and look at the Quran, thinking...Is it possible that anything else has gone through so many misconceptions, fairy tales, stories or guessing about you?  
Cry baby William, plz dont cry, , its just a thought, i get over the sentimentality when i learn its real message here from aastana :)  
and ForGET to GET me wrong William, i dont mind disagreeing, hope you don't forget to get my point  
regards, my two past ten A.M in the morning cents for not to defend or offend,,,,ok only to offend william hahahaha

Comments by: Adnan On 21 June 2011
Dear Ali Haider, No doubt your suggestion is good and workable. We are going to start removing of irrelevant comments between thoughtful discussions. We hope all respected members of this Blog cooperate with us to make this platform research oriented.

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