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 | Dear Dr Qamar sahib,
When I read 2:106, I feel that this verse is not about the abrogation but about a general law of Allah SWT for all things He creates. Do you think this is correct understanding? Could not elaborate due to space limit. Wassalam. |
 | Comments by: Anwer Suri On Sunday, February 28, 2010 | Report Abuse | |
| Here is my complete question. I don't know Arabic and I am just analyzing based on the available translations.
When I read 2:106, I feel that this verse is not about the abrogation of verses but about a general law of Allah SWT for all things He creates.
In my opinion one important point is that, if there was any abrogation in Quran or any Scriptures it was stopped with the demise of Prophet Muhammad SAW. However this verse seems to be pointing to a continuing process of abrogation and/or “cause to be forgotten”. That means this verse is not discussing just the Scriptures.
From many verses of Quran it is clear that the word ‘Ayat’ is not used just for the revealed scriptures but it is more than that. It can be anything that is a sign of Allah’s Sovereignty.
Therefore I understand this verse is discussing a phenomenon of changes that mankind is experiencing in every aspect of life since its existence. The evolution in life.
The dinosaurs used to exist but now they are extinct. People used to communicate using pigeons but no more, even the skill of using the pigeon is rare which once was common. Today we are using emails and cellular phones for communication. Sometime ago people were used to of travelling on the backs of animals now they are not but they are using cars, trains and airplanes etc. There were so many strong nations and dynasties but now we only know their history or many of them probably not even in the recorded history. There were numerous new nations emerged and are still emerging. And the list of abrogation and replacement with better can continue without any end.
These are all Allah’s signs ءَايَةٍ and the process of their ‘abrogation’ and ‘cause to be forgotten’, is continuing. These signs got replaced without interruption in the normal way of life. Even if we look back in our past life, the scene around us is totally changed or transformed. In our life time our loved ones die or depart to some other places and new people take their places. The love of new comers help forgetting those who are passed away. The new cities and towns emerging and so on. We can write books about things which are changed or vanished in our life time.
Do you think this is correct understanding? | |
| Comments by: Maniza On Sunday, February 28, 2010 |  | |
| Salama,
I agree with you bhai, but have not read the book, "Ayyat e Mutashabihat", by Dr.Q.. for me you have put it in a nut shell | |
| Comments by: Dr. Qamar Zaman On Friday, March 05, 2010 | | |
| Sorry to be late in answering your query
My way of understanding of Quran is very simple
1. Every word of Quran should be translated according to the rules of Grammar and the dictionary.
2. Find out the subject of the Sura
3. What are contents of the Sura
4. Find out the different topics discussed
5. Correlate the different topics and subtopics if any
6. Find out different claims and the challenges
7. The arguments and reasons to substantiate the challenge or claim
8. Don’t beat about the bush. Limit yourself to the message of Quran the Subject and topics of the Sura.
9. To understand a particular Ayyat (verse) study the context to know the background
There are certain other principles too but we will discuss them later.
Now to answer your question
Topic of Sura Baqra is the history of evolution of the socio-economic system of justice
The Sura starts with a brief description of human nature for acceptance of a message, categorizing into three kinds, then describing the nature of people called humans (Aadam) and those who don’t bow to the divine message called Satan (Shaitan).
Next……… Is the description of a nation..... called Bani-Israeel. Although the charge sheet ends after verse 141, but their deeds are quoted throughout Quran.
The verse 2-106 should be understood in its context which is the self made rules and values by Bani-Israeel which were discarded and new commands and values were given which were even better and exemplary.
We should limit ourselves within the boundaries of Quran. Going out to prove the potency, might, knowledge etc of the creator does no service to Quran but opens a Pandora’s box.
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| Comments by: Anwer Suri On Sunday, March 07, 2010 | Report Abuse | |
| Dear Dr Qamar,
Thank you for the explanation.
It is clear now that why this verse is considered only related to the Scriptures.
But this thought that Abrogation is a law of Allah SWT is stuck in my mind therefore the explanation raised one more question for you. I hope you will not mind to answer. Someone of my level of knowledge should not refute scholar’s views but my intention is just to understand it more.
The verse 2:79 is in context of Bani-Israeel altering the scripture but you used it in the context of Muslims scholars altering meaning of Quran based on Ahadith. That means this verse is establishing a law of Allah SWT and that applies to all mankind.
2:79 (Picktall) Therefore woe be unto those who write the Scripture with their hands and then say, "This is from Allah," that they may purchase a small gain therewith. Woe unto them for that their hands have written, and woe unto them for that they earn thereby.
Therefore I thought that 2:106 is in the context that Allah SWT replaced the previous scripture with Al-Quran but it is a rule that applies to all his Ayaat.
Why this verse cannot be applied to all Ayaat?
Wassalam | |
| Comments by: moazzam On Tuesday, April 06, 2010 Edit Delete | | |
| My dear anwar suri regards,i would like to share my opinions at this specific topic.Although AYAT having defferent sense at defferet places in quraan,its good to follow the rules and principles defind by Dr. Qamar to take the specific meaming and sense.Here the AYAT is related to the scriptures understanding,the verse 2/106 estblished a law of ALLAH and apply to all mankind (this proces is going on). The main point to clarify is the presence of rasool /nabi in mankind till the dooms day also the verse 33/40.You will be more clear when consolidate 22/52 and 2/106.thanks | |
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