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TRANSLATION OF QURAN
BY DR. QAMAR ZAMAN
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آیات
سورۃ
نمبر
1-7 الفَاتِحَة -1
1-286 البَقَرَة -2
1-200 آل عِمرَان -3
1-176 النِّسَاء -4
1-120 المَائدة -5
1-165 الاٴنعَام -6
1-206 الاٴعرَاف -7
1-75 الاٴنفَال -8
1-129 التّوبَة -9
1-109 یُونس -10
1-123 هُود -11
1-111 یُوسُف -12
1-43 الرّعد -13
1-52 إبراهیم -14
1-99 الحِجر -15
1-128 النّحل -16
1-111 بنیٓ اسرآئیل / الإسرَاء -17
1-110 الکهف -18
1-98 مَریَم -19
1-135 طٰه -20
1-112 الاٴنبیَاء -21
1-78 الحَجّ -22
1-118 المؤمنون -23
1-64 النُّور -24
1-77 الفُرقان -25
1-227 الشُّعَرَاء -26
1-93 النَّمل -27
1-88 القَصَص -28
1-69 العَنکبوت -29
1-60 الرُّوم -30
1-34 لقمَان -31
1-30 السَّجدَة -32
1-73 الاٴحزَاب -33
1-54 سَبَإ -34
1-45 فَاطِر -35
1-83 یسٓ -36
1-182 الصَّافات -37
1-88 صٓ -38
1-75 الزُّمَر -39
1-85 المؤمن / غَافر -40
1-54 حٰمٓ السجدة / فُصّلَت -41
1-54 القَمَر -54
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ZINA QURAN KI NAZAR MAIN
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SHAADI k bina mard aur aurat k "JISMAANI TA'LUQ" k bare men QURAN khamosh hae . To phir kia aisa krna JAYZ hae ?
Add Your Comments  Question by: DR. IQBAL On 18 April 2011
Comments by: Mubashir Syed On 19 April 2011Report Abuse
Dear Dr Iqbal, A kid when he evades and avoids eating, Mother gives him virtual fear of “Something Supernatural” say Bhoot. And with this fear he eats food. When grown up even after knowing no bhoot is going to eat him if he do not finish his meal he wont stop eating…….will he ?  
 
Coz a grown up child with knowledge do not require virtual fears to shy away/restrain from things which harms him.  
 
Note : Apni merzi se AAG me haath daalne ke silsile me bhi Quran Khamosh hai……Tou kya aag me haath daalna jayaz hai ? ( Sorry for using a childish example here.....). Let me give another try............." Sugar patient ko meetha khaane ke baare me bhi Quran Khamosh hai........to fir sugar patient ka meetha khana jayz hai" ?  
 
With no intension to offend or defend just 2 cents……………  
 
Thanks,  
Mubashir Syed.

Comments by: Junaid On 19 April 2011Report Abuse
Salaam;  
 
Brother Mubashir, the examples were not childish at all. In fact your answer is clear enough for everyone to understand that Quran is not a book of criminal / penal codes. Rather it's the book which provides us values to create an environment based on social justice, equality, peace, harmony, growth and prosperity.  
 
Brother Iqbal, Please allow me to list down various crimes being committed on earth and I would request you to kindly point out what punishments have been assigned in Quran regarding these crimes;  
 
1: I'll start from Rape / Gang rape which is more serious crime as compared to "shadi bina mard aur aurat ka jismani taaluq". Where has it been "specifically" mentioned and what is the punishment assigned to this crime?  
If the punishment hasn't been given in Quran, then is Rape / Gang rape allowed?  
Do you think our governments and societies are doing the right thing by not punishing these predators and encouraging them to commit more of such crimes?  
 
2: Let's talk about theft, robbery, car / mobile snatching. How many innocent people get deprived of their savings? How many innocent lives are lost in such incidents? Are there punishments, "specifically" assigned for such crimes in Quran?  
 
3: What about Racial/ Religious conflicts, causing loss of so many lives? Slaughtering thousands of people in the name of fake religious riots. Where is the appropriate punishment for such crimes?  
 
4: What about the illegal transgression on other's properties? Is there a specific punishment?  
 
5: Bribery and corruption by government officials which has now effected the whole societies. Where is the punishment?  
 
6: Illegal use of force by elites and states, for example extra judicial killings, martial laws and forced legislations. you don;t need to go too far, just see the example of Marital Laws in Pakistan or read about the autocratic rule of Arab Monarchs in our history. Where is the punishment defined for such crimes?  
 
7: Forgery being committed under the banner of state, by banks and corporations who are printing fiat money, under influence of their greed and selfishness, causing inflation and depriving majority. Few elites getting benefits from the economic system at the cost of others. Where is the punishment?  
 
8: What about the environmental pollution, because of untreated industrial wastes being generated? What about the genetic modification of food and natural crops, to increase production and consumption? What about exploitation of land and natural resources by few elites? Where is the punishment defined in Quran?  
 
9: What about corporations and elites taking huge loans and then bribing authorities to write them off? So many people are suffering because of these activities. Where is the punishment?  
 
10: 50000 human beings are dying every single day because of the current economic injustice. WHo is responsible and what kind of punishment has been assigned in Quran?  
 
Brother, you have mentioned something which is almost insignificant in terms of effects on the society and human life. Pre-marriage sex may cause issues for individuals or the families but there are other crimes which are causing drastic effects on the society and mankind. Why can't you see all these bigger issues?  
 
If no punishment is there in Quran for all the above mentioned crimes, do you think these are JAYZ?  
 
 
 

Comments by: Nargis2 On 19 April 2011Report Abuse
Dear Dr Iqbal  
 
Is it not possible, that miraculously, amazingly, somehow… people may adopt decency/correctness without a hijab, bhurka or fear 100 lashes?  
 
If it’s the whip / Chabouk or hijab that keep humans in control, then what is the person’s substance? How is he developing as a person?  
 
Thanks to hijab and bhurkas, or the fear of 100 lashes, our men are not rapists-otherwise they would rape each and every woman in the city?  
 
Are manners, courtesy and culture part of man’s existence and creation, or is it an invention by apes and khanzeers for human beings??  
 
Aren’t human beings able to differentiate between what is right and wrong? Must they be punished and their body put through suffering before they are able to?  
 
Actions are due to intentions, so the brain / decoding system in one’s mind is responsible for every decision. Why then is the body punished for something done by the psyche? How will the perception of right and wrong be changed by punishing the body?  
 
Just a curious sister wondering....  

Comments by: momin On 19 April 2011Report Abuse
Dear Doctor Iqbal,  
 
Your question, "SHAADI k bina mard aur aurat k "JISMAANI TA'LUQ" k bare men  
QURAN khamosh hae"YAI AP NAI KAISAY KEH DIA" Quran talks of family, what is a family? It is  
an institution , a social unit where act of procreation takes place which you said,"JISMAANI TA'LUQ"  
So how you think "Quran khamosh hai"  
 
Brother Junaid and Mubashir Syed has amply explained the issue of punishment. Quran doesn't  
allow any sexual perversion and extramarital sex. No not at all. unthinkable. Can anyone produce  
a single ayat encouraging such a behavior?  
 
Dear baity Nargis,  
 
You are more educated, know much more about Quran than me. I know that. you  
call me manmoo and I like it. So allow me to say a few words. Look, I think Quran gives u certain  
values and doesn't fix you by strict rules as to how you can live up to those values in any time or  
space. Now it will certainly change with time, education and environment.  
 
I have served in the area where Taliban are found now. I mean frontier province of Pakistan. If  
you ask me "boorka" is must there. But not in Islamabad where it is OK to dress up properly  
without "burka" So it will vary.  
 
Hijab is for protecting women's chastity from indecent and UN-cultured people. It is for your  
safety and respect. Things are not ideal in life. You cann't have environment of your choice.  
so you should see how you can behave and gain respect and save yourself from idiots.  
I have seen people passing cheap remarks/flirt with women in real life and on net too. Frankly,  
I don't like that. Still people are not developed to see a women like sister, mother or a  
daughter. It is neither in the west nor in the east. However, east is worst.  
So I am personally in favor of concept of purda explained by Allama Pervez .  
 
 
 

Comments by: William On 19 April 2011Report Abuse
SHAADI k bina mard aur aurat k "JISMAANI TA'LUQ" k bare men QURAN khamosh hae . To phir kia aisa krna JAYZ hae ?  
 
Question by: DR. IQBAL On 18 April 2011  
 
 
My reply:  
 
"Yes"  
 
Marriage is a union between two people, which is bound by a legal contract of law. Such a contract is put in place to safeguard the rights of both individuals. Ergo, if one were to breach the terms of the legal agreement, the matter would be settled in court!  
 
Marriage is by no means a permit for having certain relations!  

Comments by: Nargis2 On 19 April 2011Report Abuse
As I understand it, the Quran enables us to KNOW what to wear(and what to do), instead of giving us a uniform...  
 
with intellect, humans can calculate what they should wear in a talibanic criminal area, in the winter, spring or summer---

Comments by: moazzam On 19 April 2011
Dear Dr. iqbal !The Quranic guidance in respect of legislation in social laws is that, except following certain core instructions of DON'TS mentioned in Quran, every thing has been left prerogative of the HUMAN INTELLECT.  
 
THE CORE QURANIC INSTRUCTIONS OF HARAMS  
a) To violate human rights see the verses5/3, 2/173, 16/115, 2/275, 6/151, 6/119.  
6/145 قُل لاَّ أَجِدُ فِي مَا أُوْحِيَ إِلَيَّ مُحَرَّمًا عَلَى طَاعِمٍ يَطْعَمُهُ إِلاَّ أَن يَكُونَ مَيْتَةً أَوْ دَمًا مَّسْفُوحًا أَوْ لَحْمَ خِنْـزِيرٍ فَإِنَّهُ رِجْسٌ أَوْ فِسْقًا أُهِلَّ لِغَيْرِ اللّهِ بِهِ فَمَنِ اضْطُرَّ غَيْرَ بَا  
غٍ وَلاَ عَادٍ فَإِنَّ رَبَّكَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ  
 
7/157 وَيَضَعُ عَنْهُمْ إِصْرَهُمْ  
وَالْأَغْلاَلَ الَّتِي كَانَتْ عَلَيْهِمْ فَالَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ بِهِ وَعَزَّرُوهُ وَنَصَرُوهُ وَاتَّبَعُواْ النُّورَ الَّذِي أُنزِلَ مَعَهُ أُوْلَـئِكَ هُمُ الْمُفْلِحُونَ  
b) To follow up the commandments other than Allah (The Islamic state) 7/33قُلْ إِنَّمَا حَرَّمَ رَبِّيَ الْفَوَاحِشَ مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَمَا بَطَنَ وَالْإِثْمَ وَالْبَغْيَ بِغَيْرِ الْحَقِّ وَأَن تُشْرِكُواْ بِاللّهِ مَا لَمْ يُنَزِّلْ بِهِ سُلْطَانًا وَأَن تَقُولُواْ عَلَى اللّهِ مَا لاَ تَعْلَمُونَ  
c) The blood relation to whom we can’t marriage 4/23.  
 
NOW CHOSE EITHER ONE OF THE FOLLOWING, KEEPING IN VIEW THAT,DIVINE MESSAGE IS BEYOND TIME AND SPACE  
 
1) BRAIN WITH THE ETERNAL LIST OF DO and DON'TS (a list of instruction)  
 
2) THE BRAIN WITH THE INTELLECT POWER (legislate the laws as per society's will and requirements in each era)  
Sister Nargis, Brother Junaid, Mubashir Bhai explained the Quranic message very well.

Comments by: Mubashir Syed On 20 April 2011Report Abuse
Dear Momin, how about giving a gun to all women then putting them in burqa to protect their chastity from indecent and uncultured people. Guyz wont have guts to misbehave with a girl with Gun they do have guts to misbehave with the one in burqa.  
 
Note : Just a thought ......  
 
Thanks,  
Mubashir Syed.

Comments by: momin On 20 April 2011Report Abuse
Dear Mubashir Syed and baity Nargis,  
 
Moazzam writes,"every thing has been left prerogative of the HUMAN INTELLECT"  
So, what I wrote is based on my rich experience of life. I am an old baba. However, I agree with Nargis,  
 
"As I understand it, the Quran enables us to KNOW what to wear(and what to do), instead of giving us a uniform..."  
 
What I wrote is my opinion you may agree or disagree. But I stand by my each word for its correctness. You may  
like to read it again. No guns are required. Theoretically you may be right but practically things are always different.  
 
 

Comments by: UmeAimon On 20 April 2011Report Abuse
Salam,  
 
So, brother William, what is this legal contract called Nikkah for, if not allowing for a certain kind of relation and its consequences ... AND why certain relatives are not allowed to be married? About hijab and naqaab I think I agree with both Nargis and brother Momin... its for ones own convineince and from my own experience there are certain places one can't simply walk without having a burqa or big sheet arround self.  
Another question for brother Moazzam is how he had understood those verses about jilbab etc. If you've already answered this query please give me the link.  
 
jazakAllah  
 
UmeAimon

Comments by: Mubashir Syed On 21 April 2011Report Abuse
Dear Momin and All, Sorry for using childish solution of providing a gun to women. You are right it might not sound practical, but please don’t take literal meaning of what I conveyed but on the concept which I was trying to convey. I do agree am no way near your practical rich experience of life am just a kiddo relatively. Please consider my comment as an enthusiastic child who is here to learn from people like you.  
 
My Concern:  
 
We talk about equality for genders, but when it comes to these situations why we recommend/ feel only women should be taking precautionary steps? Is this equality and justification?  
 
Yes there can be solution for this but it would be a slow process……but again I fear both men and women might not like the idea…smiley  
1. Humans have to be prescribed Rehab to get out of this decease of deceived pleasure associated with sex.  
2. Gap of Physical appearance between men and women should be reduced. Women might not like this as they like their feminine charm and would not accept to forgo it at any cost ( my assumption I might be wrong )  
 
I heard a hadith sometime, I just liked the idea so wanted to convey that.  
 
When someone asked Prophet bout his view on establishment of Islam is upto the mark………….Prophet replied “ The day a beautiful young girl, wearing jewels, can travel all alone to Persia at night without any fear, that day you can conclude Islam is established .“  
 
Note : Please consider my above comment from an enthusiastic child who wants to learn by clearing his concerns………and sharing naïve ideas.  
 
Thanks,  
Mubashir Syed.

Comments by: William On 21 April 2011Report Abuse
There are several benefits and reasons for marriage, however, the purpose of the “Nikkah” is to safeguard the rights and responsibilities of two individuals who wish to enter wedlock. This relationship would therefore be acknowledged by the state / society, who would be officially aware of the union which has been made lawful.  
 
The public declaration would also depict (to the community) a legal shared authority of property, assets, commodities and funds between the couple.  
 
If two people were not married and one of them was to pass away, the other would not be able to gain control of any of the deceased’s assets. Inheritance would be another issue, automatic transfer of property or assets to an offspring may not be possible.  
 
A marriage contract could protect spouses’ custodial rights to children; if a single man were to have a child with a single woman, he may have less legal / parental rights – there may also be restricted access to the child.  
 
If a child is born out of wedlock, his / her upbringing may be subject to many different factors including the solidarity of the parents. If the parents do not cohabit, the relationship between the parents and the child may suffer, causing hindrance to his or her development; growing to become stable and whole minded.  
 
With a “Nikkah”, provisions and duties are more controlled; a formal routine is established, tending to each other’s needs, being faithful etc. A marriage would ensure stability as opposed to a relationship out of wedlock.  
 
There are many rights and responsibilities that come with marriage; the very basic types of which have been mentioned.  
 
I have mentioned this in another post:  
 
“If two people want to get married, it is their discretion to do so, as long as they are able to enter a legally binding agreement and can cover their finances.  
 
The role of the witnesses is to observe the signing of the nuptial agreement, so they are able to provide testimony to the event taking place.  
 
It is the responsibility of the couple to ensure they adhere to the marriage proposals and the terms within their agreement.  
 
The authorities would inevitably regulate the marriage. However, the intervention of a court is likely to occur when the couple decide to divorce. All accounts would be taken into consideration, including possible witness testimonies, before a final decision is made. It may be deemed by the Court that the couple seek counselling to salvage their relationship, but this would be a decision made by the Judge! ”  
 
If a divorce petition is filed, the “Nikkah” contract that was signed would need to be analysed by the court, so to ensure a rational decision is made!  
 
If a couple living together did not have a nuptial contract and they were to end the relationship, it may be done in a frantic and unfair manner.  
 
The Quran does not mention a specific method for the marriage ceremony to take place or for it to be conducted at all. What is required by the Quran is that anyone who wants to live together in matrimony is required to sign a contract and adhere to its terms and conditions.  
 
If the individuals were Hindu and living within an Islamic state (which fully encompassed Quranic laws), their wedding ceremony would be performed to Hindu customs! However, to ensure that the rights of both individuals are safeguarded, a Nikkah would need to be signed!  
 
What is known as the “Nikkah” presently (which is a traditional interpretation of the Nikkah in the Quran), needs to be discussed - the traditional ceremony of the Nikah itself, how it is performed and what it entails!  
 
1. During the ceremony, details of the bride, groom, witnesses, parents and other individuals is noted.  
2. The Dowry maybe mentioned along with how it may be paid.  
3. Duas are read and consent is taken from the bride and groom.  
4. Passages from the Quran maybe recited (such as 24:32) along with more duas.  
 
Yet there is no mention of sexual consent being given at any point during this ceremony. No rights or responsibilities, more so a ritualistic ceremony, which is no different to any other matrimonial service. A contract is also signed, but to be honest, I don’t think anyone has ever read it!  
 
The Nikkah contract, its content, including all terms and conditions must be drawn up by and agreed to by both the bride and the groom. The terms must be understood fully, along with the implications and consequences if terms are breached, and signed with complete consent and approval.  

Comments by: William On 21 April 2011Report Abuse
 
It is in the nature of human beings to procreate, and to repopulate the planet. Individuals are attracted to each other and it is only natural to have feelings and desires for one another. How does one refrain from thoughts of the opposite sex? There’s a difference between keeping chaste and denying basic instincts... as this may cause individuals much mental and emotional strain, which may build up and cause devastating effects on the mental psyche. They may carry out acts, which may be committed due to such strict measures put in place. If people were taught to control their feelings, behaviours and appreciate how to harness them, such problems may not exist.  
 
This is why a Burka and Jilbab are required – however what needs to be looked at is the bigger picture as to reforming the mentality and ideology of people. Males and females should be educated so that such primitive way of thinking and living is eradicated. A woman should be able to walk the streets naked, without anyone looking at her in a negative or perverse manner. Irrespective of the fact that she is naked, or the impression she is giving, people should be able to not force themselves upon a woman, instead treat her with respect and with decency so that she can feel safe regardless.  
 
Certain people who are not attracted to each other are parents, offspring and siblings. This is a natural as if a brother and sister were to have a relationship and bear a child; it would have a defective birth. It is also dangerous to marry extended members of the family, as it could seriously jeopardise the health of a potential offspring.  
 
For this reason, trying hard to forcefully perceive someone as a brother or sister may cause the individual psychological problems.  

Comments by: William On 21 April 2011Report Abuse
Mubashir,  
 
The two points you raised are exactly what society needs to do in order to resolve this problem.  
 
Good job!  
 

Comments by: moazzam On 21 April 2011
Sister Um-e-Aimon! Although i have already discussed the issue you asked for, let me reproduce again for your convenience.  
 
 
 
PARDA OF WOMEN (SCARF) OR GUIDANCE TO JAMAAT AL MOMINEEN  
 
Surah NOOR the matter of “FUHASH AND ZINA”(the counter Islamic ideology and distortion of Islamic ideology) has been described.  
Where as in Surah “AL AHZAAB” please keep in mind the scenario in which different groups of people are joining newly established Islamic state where as some are involved in a war like situation ( has been discussed).  
To find out the message given (in a broad senses) in the said both surah we have to know the following terminologies used in here.  
Keep in mind the sense of following terminologies  
 
ZINA= Distortion of ideology.  
FOHASH = the anti Islamic literature.  
SHIRK = the un Quranic(parallel to Allah’s) commandments.  
NISA = the weaker segment of the society.  
NISA ANNABI = the people from the “JMAAT ANNABI”.  
JALDA = the cover of protection.  
RAMY = Arrangement (read upon) to convince them.  
FROOJ = Weaknesses.  
ABSAAR = Close observation (with wisdom)  
AZWAJJ = Group of people.  
KHUMARI HINNAH = their way of concealing.  
AQEEM ASSALAT= to establish the Islamic state.  
 
1:- The verse 24/1 سُورَةٌ أَنْزَلْنَاهَا وَفَرَضْنَاهَا وَأَنزَلْنَا فِيهَا آيَاتٍ بَيِّنَاتٍ لَّعَلَّكُمْ تَذَكَّرُونَ shows importance of the subject under discussion.  
 
2:-The verses 24/2-4 are about the course of special training to restrain ZANIES from their activities (those have been involved to distort the quranic ideology) to flourish the FOHASH and SHIRK in the society.  
 
3:-In verses 24/4-10, a specific procedure is being elaborated, to protect the innocents those been FALSLY blamed as an accused in participation of ACT OF ZINA.  
 
4:- In verses24/ 11-18, it is instructed to momineen, not to believe on any rumors.  
 
5:- In verses 24/19-22, it is advised that, momineen should avoid to be the part of such a rumors proliferation.  
 
6:- It is assured in verses 24/24-25 that HAQQ will definitely be distinguished from BATILL, and every one will surely be rewarded according to their shares in any sort of activity.  
 
PARAD OF WOMEN (SCARF) vs GUIDANCE TO JAMAAT AL MOMINEEN  
Note the sense of following terminologies.Please keep in mind the Surah ALNASR (111/1-3) then read the Surah NOOR.  
BAULATA HUNNA = (baala al qaome/qaomin)The groups having deep relations ship with each other (dictionary Al Manjad)  
KHUMR = To conceal.  
ZEANATA HUNNA = any pre Islamic distinctive quality of a group of Momineen which could cause reflection of pride over other groups.  
JUYOUB-E-HUNNAH = jaib al arz , (dwelling place).Dictionary Al Manjad.  
AABAA-E-HINNA = Their Ancestors  
ABNA-E-HINNAH = son’s of the nation.  
IKHWAN-E-HINNAH = individuals from the groups of same back ground  
AKHAWAT-E-HINNAH = the groups of same back ground.  
NISAA-E-HINNAH = groups of weaker segment of their society.  
MALAKAT AIMANU HUNNAH = the groups of people under their oath.  
TABIEENA GAIRA OLIL ARBA MINAL RAJJAL = the people those are under your rule, except leader like people among elites.  
TIFL LUM YAZHAROO ALA AURAT ANNISA = the people yet not knows how to dominate the weaker people in the society.  
 
WALA YAZRIBNA BI ARJULE HINNAH = don’t tell the above mentioned “ZEENAH” to your ascenders (coming generation) to carry forward the said act of pride.  
 
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7:- In verses 24/30, قُل لِّلْمُؤْمِنِينَ يَغُضُّوا مِنْ أَبْصَارِهِمْ وَيَحْفَظُوا فُرُوجَهُمْ ذَلِكَ أَزْكَى لَهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ خَبِيرٌ بِمَا يَصْنَعُونَ  
All individual Momineen are instructed to be conscious about their weaknesses, and arrange to provide safe guard to protect your self ( to over come the said weaknesses).  
8:- All groups of Momineen(different jamaat) has been addressed with the same instructions as in clause 7 above, in addition to this read the verse 24/31وَقُل لِّلْمُؤْمِنَاتِ يَغْضُضْنَ مِنْ أَبْصَارِهِنَّ وَيَحْفَظْنَ فُرُوجَهُنَّ وَلَا يُبْدِينَ زِينَتَهُنَّ إِلَّا مَا ظَهَرَ مِنْهَا وَلْيَضْرِبْنَ بِخُمُرِهِنَّ عَلَى جُيُوبِهِنَّ وَلَا يُبْدِينَ زِينَتَهُنَّ إِلَّا لِبُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ آبَائِهِنَّ أَوْ آبَاءِ بُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ أَبْنَائِهِنَّ أَوْ أَبْنَاءِ بُعُولَتِهِنَّ أَوْ إِخْوَانِهِنَّ أَوْ بَنِي إِخْوَانِهِنَّ أَوْ بَنِي أَخَوَاتِهِنَّ أَوْ نِسَائِهِنَّ أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُهُنَّ أَوِ التَّابِعِينَ غَيْرِ أُوْلِي الْإِرْبَةِ مِنَ الرِّجَالِ أَوِ الطِّفْلِ الَّذِينَ لَمْ يَظْهَرُوا عَلَى عَوْرَاتِ النِّسَاءِ وَلَا يَضْرِبْنَ بِأَرْجُلِهِنَّ لِيُعْلَمَ مَا يُخْفِينَ مِن زِينَتِهِنَّ وَتُوبُوا إِلَى اللَّهِ جَمِيعًا أَيُّهَا الْمُؤْمِنُونَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ keeping in view the above mentioned terminologies.  
The different groups are advised not to show/expose their pre Islamic distinction (zeenata hunnah) to others (except list provided) , to look a prominent group among others, rather try to conceal it at your own way in your vicinity/ dwelling (WAL YAZRIBNA BI KHUMURI HINNAH ALA JUBIHINNAH) .  
 
9:- In verses 24/3 the usual trend of people has been described, that, they normally like to have a partner ship with the same character/mentality as their own, and usually make their mutual dealing/ agreements with each other.  
 
TO KNOW THE SENSE OF VERSES 33/28-35 PLEASE READ THE TRANSLATION OF DR. QAMARZAMAN AS GIVEN UNDER  
 
 
 
 
 
28 يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ قُل لِّأَزْوَاجِكَ إِن كُنتُنَّ تُرِدْنَ الْحَيَاةَ الدُّنْيَا وَزِينَتَهَا فَتَعَالَيْنَ أُمَتِّعْكُنَّ وَأُسَرِّحْكُنَّ سَرَاحًا جَمِيلًا  
اے سربراہ مملکت اپنی جماعتوں سے کہہ دو کہ " اگر تم ادنی زندگی اور اس کی زینت وآرائش کی خواستگار ہو تو آؤ میں تمہیں کچھ مال دوں اور اچھے انداز سے رخصت کردوں "۔  
 
 
29 وَإِن كُنتُنَّ تُرِدْنَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَالدَّارَ الْآخِرَةَ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ أَعَدَّ لِلْمُحْسِنَاتِ مِنكُنَّ أَجْرًا عَظِيمًا  
اور اگر تم مملکت خداداد اور خوشحال معاشرے کے طلبگار ہو تو تم میں جو حسن سلوک کرنے والی جماعتیں ہیں اُن کے لئے مملکت خداداد نے اجر عظیم تیار کر رکھا ہے۔  
 
 
30 يَا نِسَاءَ النَّبِيِّ مَن يَأْتِ مِنكُنَّ بِفَاحِشَةٍ مُّبَيِّنَةٍ يُضَاعَفْ لَهَا الْعَذَابُ ضِعْفَيْنِ ۚ وَكَانَ ذَٰلِكَ عَلَى اللَّهِ يَسِيرًا  
اے سربراہ مملکت کی جماعتوں تم میں سے جو کوئی غیر الہی احکامات پر عمل پیرا ہوتا ہے تو اس کو دونی سزا دی جائے گی۔ اور یہ بات مملکت خداداد کے لئے آسان ہے ۔  
 
 
31 وَمَن يَقْنُتْ مِنكُنَّ لِلَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ وَتَعْمَلْ صَالِحًا نُّؤْتِهَا أَجْرَهَا مَرَّتَيْنِ وَأَعْتَدْنَا لَهَا رِزْقًا كَرِيمًا  
اور تم میں سے جو جماعت بھی مملکت خداداد کی فرمانبردار رہے گی اور اصلاحی عمل کرے گی۔ اس کو ہم دوگنا اجر دیں گے اور اس کے لئے ہم نے ضروریات زندگی با عزت طور پر تیار کر رکھی ہے ۔  
 
 
32 يَا نِسَاءَ النَّبِيِّ لَسْتُنَّ كَأَحَدٍ مِّنَ النِّسَاءِ ۚ إِنِ اتَّقَيْتُنَّ فَلَا تَخْضَعْنَ بِالْقَوْلِ فَيَطْمَعَ الَّذِي فِي قَلْبِهِ مَرَضٌ وَقُلْنَ قَوْلًا مَّعْرُوفًا  
اے سربراہ مملکت کی جماعتوں تم اور دوسری جماعتوں کی طرح نہیں ہو۔ اگر تم متّقی رہنا چاہتی ہو تو احکامات میں نرمی نہ کیا کرو تاکہ وہ کہ جس کے دل میں نفاق کا مرض ہے کوئی امید پیدا کرے۔ اور جو حکم کرو وہ دستور کے مطابق کیا کرو ۔  
 
 
33 وَقَرْنَ فِي بُيُوتِكُنَّ وَلَا تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَاهِلِيَّةِ الْأُولَىٰ ۖ وَأَقِمْنَ الصَّلَاةَ وَآتِينَ الزَّكَاةَ وَأَطِعْنَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ ۚ إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنكُمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيرًا  
اور اپنے اداروں میں وقار پیدا کرو ، اور جس طرح پہلے جہالت میں بلندی کا اظہار کرتے تھے اس طرح کا اظہارا نہ کرو اور الہی احکامات پر مبنی نظام قائم کرو ، اور معاشرے کی خوشحالی کا فریضہ انجام دیتے رہو ۔ اور مملکت خداداد کی اطاعت کرتے رہو ۔مملکت خداداد کا ارادہ ہے کہ وہ مملکت کے ادارے کی اہلیت والوں کو برائیوں سے پاک کرے ، اور تمہاری حقیقی تطہیر کرے ۔  
 
مباحث:۔  
" تبرّجن "۔۔مادہ ب ر ج ۔۔معنی ۔۔بلند و نمایاں ہونا ،زیبا ئش کرنا۔ قلعہ،محل ۔رکن ، فصیل پر بنا برج ۔  
 
 
34 وَاذْكُرْنَ مَا يُتْلَىٰ فِي بُيُوتِكُنَّ مِنْ آيَاتِ اللَّهِ وَالْحِكْمَةِ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ لَطِيفًا خَبِيرًا  
اور تمہارے اداروں میں جو وحی الہی سے احکامات اور انکے مقاصد جاری ہوتے ہیں ان کو یاد رکھتے ہوئے عمل پیرا رہو ۔ بےشک مملکت خداداد باریک بیں اور باخبر ہے ۔  
 
 
آیت نمبر ۳۵ میں دس الگ الگ خصوصیات کے لوگوں کا ذکر آرہا ہے ،جس مین مذکّر اور ٘مونّث کے صیغے آئے ہیں ۔  
سب سے پہلے تو سوچنے کی یہ بات ہے ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔کیا مومن میں باقی خصوصیات نہیں تھیں جو اسکو مسلمین کی جماعت سے علہدہ بیان کیا گیا ؟  
اسی طرح کیا المسلمین و المسلمات میں باقی مذکورہ صفات نہیں پائی جاتی تھیں ؕ؟  
آخر کیا وجہ ہے کہ سب کو علہدہ علہدہ انواع کے تحت بیان کیا گیا ہے ؟ یہ تو ہو نہیں سکتا کہ جسکو مسلم کہا گیا وہ مومن نہ ہو یا صابر نہ ہو یا صا ئم نہ ہو اور مملکت خداداد میں انسانوں کی الگ الگ ا قسام ہوں ،۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ہر مسلم یقیناّ مومن بھی تھا قانت بھی تھا صادق بھی تھا ۔۔۔علی ھذ القیاس ۔۔ایک مسلم اس وقت تک مسلم کہلانے کا حق نہیں رکھتا جب تک کہ اس میں مذکورہ خسوصیات موجود نہ ہوں ۔  
غور کرنے سے یہ بات کھل کر سامنے آ جائیگی کہ یہ مملکت خداداد کے تحت الگ الگ اداروں کی ذمّہ داریون کے حوالے سے بات کی گئی ہے ۔  
 
35 إِنَّ الْمُسْلِمِينَ وَالْمُسْلِمَاتِ وَالْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَالْمُؤْمِنَاتِ وَالْقَانِتِينَ وَالْقَانِتَاتِ وَالصَّادِقِينَ وَالصَّادِقَاتِ وَالصَّابِرِينَ وَالصَّابِرَاتِ وَالْخَاشِعِينَ وَالْخَاشِعَاتِ وَالْمُتَصَدِّقِينَ وَالْمُتَصَدِّقَاتِ وَالصَّائِمِينَ وَالصَّائِمَاتِ وَالْحَافِظِينَ فُرُوجَهُمْ وَالْحَافِظَاتِ وَالذَّاكِرِينَ اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا وَالذَّاكِرَاتِ أَعَدَّ اللَّهُ لَهُم مَّغْفِرَةً وَأَجْرًا عَظِيمًا  
اطاعت کرنے والے اور انکی ساتھی جماعت،امن قائم کرنےوالے اور انکی ساتھی جماعت ،فرمانبردار اور ان کی ساتھی جماعت ،سچ کر دکھانے والے اور انکی ساتھی جماعت ،استقامت سے کھڑے ہونے والے اور انکی ساتھی جماعت ،وحی الہی کا میلان رکھنے والے اور انکی ساتھی جماعت ،تصدیق کرنے وا لے اوران کی ساتھی جماعت ،وحی الہی کے خلاف جانے سے رکنے اور روکنے وا لے اور ان کی ساتھی جماعت ،اپنی کمی و کمزوری کی اصلاح کرنے والے اور انکی ہم خیال جماعت ،اور وحی الہی کی ہمیشہ یاد دہانی کرانے والے اور انکی ساتھی جماعت ۔۔۔۔۔۔۔بلا شک ان کے لئے مملکت خداداد نے حفاظت اور اجر عظیم تیّار کر رکھا ہے ۔  
 
 
 

Comments by: Mujeeb On 21 April 2011Report Abuse
Dear Mubashir ! What measures should be taken to young boys to safe guard their chastity, ware some mature women becomes more dangerous/aggressive for young boys in the women dominating society ??

Comments by: William On 21 April 2011Report Abuse
 
Thank you for that Brother Moazzam, it makes more sense and ties into what has already been said!  
 
Mujeeb,  
 
One can educate youngsters as much as possible and try to provide them with explanations as to why chastity is important; so to ensure dignity is maintained. However, one should realise that it is very natural to have certain feelings and urges.  
 
Curiosity, lack of control, hormones and little appreciation and understanding for the opposite sex leads to mistreatment.  
 
Youngsters, in particular boys, should be taught to respect the opposite sex and to act more sensible around them. Actions speak louder than words, so boys need a good role model who can display good practice; how one should treat a lady, behaving in a gentlemanly like manner.  
 
Boys and girls should be taught that sex is a very intimate, personal, important, cherished and solemn act that needs to be approached responsibly and only when adequate sense of maturity is gained. The implications of sex need to be taught, including consequences – pregnancy and harmful diseases that can be caught, etc.  
 
Sex should not be promoted instead taught wholly!  
 
I agree with Mubashir, a deeper understanding and a more open attitude towards the opposite sex will create a relaxed ambience amongst each other; so to have a sense of venerability.  
 
Society’s attitude towards individuals needs to be reformed, along with opinions and ideals regarding sex, relationships, and marriage.  
 
Instead of the community spirit that solidifies individuals, protecting them and providing them with security and a sense of belonging, we have become a world of judgemental characters who frown upon those who follow their true feelings.  
 
Those who abuse sex and behave in a juvenile manner need to be rehabilitated, and taught to behave responsibly, not be scorned and branded an outsider!  
 
Then we wouldn’t need proclaimed tools of necessity such as the “Burka”  
 
 

Comments by: Nargis2 On 21 April 2011Report Abuse
Brother Mujeeb  
 
Humans can learn EVERYTHING,,,,guess what,,,even decency  
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USlnfTGlhXc&feature=related  
 
listen from 5:40, "natrual instinct" with "control"  
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW37eD5i24Q

Comments by: Mubashir Syed On 22 April 2011Report Abuse
Dear Mujeeb, its not about young boy vs aggressive women or Male vs Female. Its about weaker party vs stronger lustful party.  
 
Undeveloped/ Underdeveloped personalities have tendency to oppress weaker people and being selfish would try to do everything which they can, utilising their skills, possition and power.  
 
First point of my previous comment to prescribe rehabilitation is for both Genders. As said there is no solution only work around until Humans get out this decease and understand the reality behind pleasure associated with process of sex which is exaggerated to a level where people started considering it as natural need like air, water, food and sleep.  
 
And second point as well to reduce the Gap of physical appearance. Process as said would be slow but I think will provide a permanent solution. It might not answer all questions related to sex, but it would make no question arise in the first place.  
 
I have presented my opinion on this subject “ Pleasure associated with sex is not natural and has been exaggerated by humans to this level “ please see if it makes sense to you by clicking on below link.  
 
http://aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?MID=3&SID=29&QID=609  
 
Note : Chor ke haath nahi........chori ke haath cut karo.  
 
Thanks,  
Mubashir Syed.

Comments by: Mubashir On 22 April 2011Report Abuse
24:3 As translated by Muhammad Asad make clear the verses re adultery/fornication:  
 
[Both are equally guilty:] the adulterer couples with none other than an adulteress - that is, a woman who accords [to her own lust] a place side by side with God; and with the adulteress couples none other than an adulterer - that is, a man who accords [to his own lust] a place side by side with God: and this is forbidden unto the believers.  
 
Hope this helps!!

Comments by: UmeAimon On 22 April 2011Report Abuse
Salam,  
Thank you dear brother Moazzam ...but you could just have provided with the link to your previous post. So thanks for your wonderful post once again. Its all about the the jamats working together for establishing Allah’s rule.  
Brother Mubhashir Syed you're right about sex and I think it has been grossly overrated and exlploited for the sake of trillions dollar industries thriving on making it something more important than hunger, thirst, safety and justice, something human being cannot survive without… the real basic instincts!!  
It is nothing that cannot be contained / controlled and regulated and is certainly regulated by marriage in Quran. There is absolutely no denying that and no question about why it should not be regulated!  
As for forcefull or lustfull acts be it men or women they need to be educated ofcourse but since they are responsible for their acts they should be held accountable for them also and punished for their acts if needed.  
About women doing parda … well I was talking about the practical experience brother momin was talking about. There are places where women do roam arround almost naked and people hardly look at them but here are places where one cannot walk without complete chaddar wrapped arroung unless ones too hungry for attention. So its for convinience not how it should be actually.  
Now the main point, since all Quran is about how to form and strive as an ideal society and since we are now understanding it and learning it, where is the starting point given in Quran? Shouldn’t all be in the order… I mean from start and onwards??  
 
jazakAllah  
 
Um-e-Aimon :)

Comments by: bob On 23 April 2011Report Abuse
The Quran is a resource full of knowledge, which provides viable measures to establish an ideal and just society. The starting point would be Surah Fateah, which reflects man’s own pursuit for the truth. Points raised in Surah Fateah are expressed by man after a study of the universe and its inner working. Surah Fateah, featured as an introduction in the Quran, is an allegorical declaration of yearning in the mind of a human being, who is in search for the truth. The rest of the Quran is guidance (sirate mustaqeem), including remedies and solutions that achieve results to questions raised to begin with.  
 
Such guidance begins when the mind is ready to be molded (free from beliefs and fixed ideology). If the mind is in any other condition, such as having previously conceived perceptions and values, such conceptions need to be eradicated. Therefore, this would be the initial phase for such individuals; a form of rehabilitation, removing all thoughts that dominate his / her current perception of reality.  
 
Such processes need to start immediately.  

Comments by: UmeAimon On 23 April 2011Report Abuse
Salam bob,  
 
Well said as usual... but I really wasn't talking about individuals but as a jamat!  
 
jazakAllah

Comments by: moazzam On 23 April 2011
Sister UmeAimon!  
Mr Bob's excellent expression reflects his enlightened Quranic vision from taxi to takeoff the revolution- plane of DEEN-E-ISAL, the program could be started individually or in groups in the light of said vision.  
Actually, the matter of SEX has extra ordinary been exposed exploited and exaggerated in the religious world (in man dominated societies), which ultimately suppress the female gender’s basic human rights.  
It is right that, to protect the CHASTITY of each gender is obligatory in DEEN-E-ISLAM therefore, extra marital sex is not allowed, but should be treated in a sense as the WEALTH, PROPERTY AND LIVES of the people are been taken in to account see the verses 6/51-53..  
Although the legislation and its implementation to protect the above mentioned matters is the sole responsibility of government; even then each individual is liable to take all possible measures to safe guard and encounter any sort of aggression in this regard, which certainly differs society to society.  

Comments by: abdullahbashoeb On 24 April 2011
Dear Br Mubashir,  
 
for your kind information the verse which you have refered it is nothing to do with adultery . please find its correct interpretation by Respected Br Dr Qamar. and further clarification by Respected Br AurangZaib.  
 
There is no differentiation between the two kinds in Quran. So the result we infer is  
1. either the ayat is not about sexual relation or  
2. there is no mention of sexual relations with consent.  
 
In either case there is something wrong in the understanding of the Ayyat. Let us study the Verse 2 & 3 of Sura 24 with its traditional translation.  
الزَّانِيَةُ وَالزَّانِي فَاجْلِدُوا كُلَّ وَاحِدٍ مِنْهُمَا مِائَةَ جَلْدَةٍ وَلا تَأْخُذْكُمْ بِهِمَا رَأْفَةٌ فِي دِينِ اللَّهِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الآخِرِ وَلْيَشْهَدْ عَذَابَهُمَا طَائِفَةٌ مِنَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ  
الزَّانِي لا يَنْكِحُ إلا زَانِيَةً أَوْ مُشْرِكَةً وَالزَّانِيَةُ لا يَنْكِحُهَا إِلا زَانٍ أَوْ مُشْرِكٌ وَحُرِّمَ ذَلِكَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ  
Verse no 2... As for the Adulteress and the Adulterer -- flog each of them with hundred stripes, and let not compassion with them keep you away from this law of God. If you believe in God and the last day and let a group of believers witness their chastisement.  
Verse no 3... The Adulterer marries no other than an adulteress or a Mushrikah, the Adulteresses ,........None else marries her other than an adulterer or a Mushrik and this is forbidden for the believers.  
 
Keeping aside the wrong interpretations of the Ayyat let us see what we understood from this translation,  
1...Male or female both are to be treated equally and every one of them to be flogged hundred stripes,  
2...A group of persons must see the flogging of the two.  
Now comes the surprise,  
3....An adulterer does not marry any woman except an adulteress or Mushrikah.  
4....And vice versa an adulteress gets married to only adulterer.  
Is this declaration correct ?  
 
We don’t see this attitude in any society. Even most sexually corrupt person wants his wife to be pure and faithful to him. Further we don’t see him marrying a Mushrikah (مشرکہ) (woman who is not Muslim and usually worships idols) and vice versa.  
 
If this observation is incorrect by any interpretations at any time what then ZINA means.  
-- Why an adulterer and Mushrik bracketed together,  
-- What is the similarity between the two.  
 
 
The word ZINA actually means ..........DISTORTION OF IDEOLOGY........ Zani is the one who 'distorts' an ideology.  
Zania (probably) here can be the female of ZANI or it can be a Group, (Jamaat) or Gang or Community committing this crime, as a Jamaat in Arabic is female and the word for it precedes a ۃ of 'taanis" (feminine).  
 
Of course, accordingly, "Al-Zani" or "Al-Zania" are those who commit the crime of distorting the ideology of Islam.  
Hence they and Mushrikeen are given equivalent status by the Almighty.  
 
See the meaning of "distortion":  
 
"alter shape: to bend, twist, stretch, or force something out of its usual or natural shape"  
 
I write the above lines with the inspiration from Dr. Sahib's research.  
 
I wll try to add something about verse2of sura 24.  
the word translated for whipping is "FAJLEDOO" Which is derived from root letters "Jeem Lam Dal"the word "Jild",Mujallad etc are also derived from the same root letters.The word Jild means skin which protects the body from outside damages.Mujallad is a book which is protected from wear and tear by its hard coverings.So the basic meaning of basic root letters "jeem Lam dal" is to protect.  
The word for "whip" used for whipping in arabic is "Saut" which is used for the same meaning in verse13 of sura 89.  
See also dictionary by Abdul waheed page 1300 and 1551.  
 
In sura 7 Fahash is defined as......... following someones own desires which is again the "shirk".  
From verse 26 onwards Quran says,  
""Oh children of Adam(human beings) undoubtedly we have presented a dress to you which keeps you away from your evils (the word used is from "soo" which means evils) and good looks.i.e dress of "TAQWA" and this is excellent.AND THESE ARE FROM THE ORDERS OF GOD.""  
Once you defined that you are given a dress which protects you from evils ie QURAN, rest of the ayat become so easy to understand that " Fahash "is not in relation to sex but in relation to leaving the creators testaments  
and Zina is not sexual but in relation to mutilating the understanding of Gods commands.This is the reason why Zina and Shirk are bracketed together in verse 2 of sura24.  
 
 
God bless you all.  
 
Salam  
 

Comments by: William On 24 April 2011Report Abuse
Mubashir,  
 
I disagree; Sex is not man-made. It is perfectly natural and so is the pleasure it may bring. I have scanned through the link you have posted, but you have failed to provide actual reasoning as to why you believe that the pleasure aspect of sex has been invented.  
 
As I have said previously, it is in the nature of human beings to procreate and to repopulate the planet. You may state that animals have a similar function, however do not behave in the same manner as humans when it comes to sex. Evidently, animals do not have free will and are subject to fixed cycles of behavioural change. Animals may mate during a particular season and with a dominant pairing – natural selection would take effect so as to ensure only the strong survive. Mating is an automated process for animals who have instincts that prompt them to reproduce – certain animals may release pheromones (substances / chemicals), which are recognised by potential mates from amongst the same species.  
 
Humans have free will and therefore reproduction may not be as periodically determined. Humans have more control over when they procreate, and for most of the time can choose when to conceive.  
Without being to explicit, the manner to which triggers a human to want to reproduce is physical attraction. Certain urges and desires are what trigger couples to have relations; pleasure enticing the couple to commit the act.  
 
If sex is restricted just for the sake of human reproduction, and if every individual is to have no more than 10 children, then the individual is likely to have about 10 sexual experiences in his / her lifetime.  
It could be said that not every sexual encounter guarantees conception, then what would tempt couples to commit the act in the first place? If sex does not involve pleasure and its only purpose is for reproduction, then would it not be safer to be done using IVF treatment (In vitro fertilization) in the present times.  
 
During the times prior to pregnancy tests and Ultra sound scanning, apart from morning sickness and other physical signs, how were people able to tell if conception was successful? Did they repeat the act to make sure?  
 
Sexual and physical pleasures cannot simply be implanted in humans as suggested. This is a makeup of our nature.  
 
IF HOWEVER YOU ARE SUGGESTING that the idea of sex is entrenched into us mentally, through advertising and other forms of promotion, then this is a completely different matter all together.  
 
Sexual exploitation and manipulation is apparent; it is forced upon individuals by the media and corporate enterprises! Prostitution and pornography aside, companies advertising hair and beauty products, use sex as a tool to sell products and services to individuals. Television programs, music and other media constantly drill sex into the populace, so that it plays on the minds of individuals constantly. It becomes less natural and more artificial.  

Comments by: Nargis On 24 April 2011Report Abuse
Magazines and media came after our religous leaders, so sexual exploitation and manipulation is apparent through our hadith junkeys. They have tried to turn the Quran into a book of sex and sexual desire. Like God was sooooo worried about people having sex that he forgot to guide people in every other matter, or didnt feel it was necessary.  
 
The same book haas been given to every Rusool throughout time, and yet its all about sexual relations... eh?  
 

Comments by: UmeAimon On 25 April 2011Report Abuse
Salam,  
 
Brother Moazzam, I could not get the answer of what i asked in your reply perhaps. What I asked was the way to start all practically ... As all suggestions are for the group/jamat of momineens! How can someone be held responsible for something that he has no authority of??  
 
Brother William yes it is built in our system... the pleasure and all but then it makes me wonder: How come the process of reproduction ALWAYS requires pleasure for a man and not for woman?  
 
UmeAimon

Comments by: moazzam On 25 April 2011
Sister UmeAimon! What I asked was the way to start all practically ... As all suggestions are for the group/jamat of momineens! How can someone be held responsible for something that he has no authority of?? (umeAimon)  
Respected sister! I jut elaborated the relevant part of the Surah Noor and Surah Al Ahzab to clarify the actual facts in contrast with the orthodox stance in WOMAN PARDA.  
As for as your question is concerns " What I asked was the way to start all practically" , I think Sister Nargis's advice is right.  
As you are a learned lady with a clear concept of DEEN and its implementation in the society plz recall the sense of Surah MUDDASSIR,MUZZAMMIL to be taken as the starting point of islamic revolution.

Comments by: naeem sheikh On 25 April 2011Report Abuse
Brother moazzam ! As i already requested in my post, to enlighten us about the Quranic terms / attributes MUZZAMMIL and MUDDASSIR.same as your elaborated the attribute MUHAMMAD.  
Your following suggestion to UmeAimon also seems relevant to my request.  
"Plz recall the sense of Surah MUDDASSIR,MUZZAMMIL to be taken as the starting point of islamic revolution"(by moazzam)

Comments by: Mubashir Syed On 26 April 2011Report Abuse
Dear Williams, ll get back to you for your concerns over the issue a bit busy these days. Until then I would like to comment on your first concern….rest over the weekend...  
 
Williams : I disagree; Sex is not man-made. It is perfectly natural and so is the pleasure it may bring. I have scanned through the link you have posted, but you have failed to provide actual reasoning as to why you believe that the pleasure aspect of sex has been invented.  
 
Mubashir : Yes I agree with you I have failed to present the case in smooth fashion. Please go thru the entire thread as I made a correction there. Its not Sex is man made but PLEASURE ASSOCIATED WITH SEX IS MANMADE”. Manmade as in exaggerated to commercialize it not only for money but to induce a WEAKNESS in Human.  
 
Plz think over concepts you conveyed for animals they need some more R&D. No even animals have choice which they select based on their need and capacity.( Brother Momin would you like to throw some light on behavior of animals?)  
 
Note : Picture abhi bazi hai…………fir milte hai break ke baad.  
 
Thanks,  
Mubashir Syed.

Comments by: UmeAimon On 26 April 2011Report Abuse
Salam again,  
 
Brother Moazzam, first of all I'm a not a learned person. Second, I think I did not make my question clear when I asked. My meager knowledge of these ayats tells me these verses are for the leader and the founder of the order, the rasool, to start off with the mission of educating and implementing this Deen and then almost everywhere its about how the people/group of momineens are suppose to act and do once this Deen is established ... what I’m looking for and missed perhaps is the WAY to be practically in such position to actually follow and enforce all that! I hope it’s clear now otherwise I’ll come some other time after a lot of thinking.  
 
Brother Mubashir I agree with point of turning it into weakness. My wondering though has not stopped! Could any body shed some light on this way of nature? Why is it the way it is?? Why women don’t need pleasure to reproduce?  
 
UmeAimon

Comments by: Nargis2 On 26 April 2011Report Abuse
I wonder what woman would undergo the process of reproduction if she dont feel any pleasure,,unless she is forced ...women too feel pleasure, dont they?  
 
but the exaggeration in both,east and west, wont let sex be sex but turned it into the only thing that matters in human life, and the only thing that makes ppl good or bad.  
 
sad loosers

Comments by: UmeAimon On 27 April 2011Report Abuse
Nargis dear its not a must in "reproduction process"... forget what society is doing for a while, lets talk about the natural way where a female (human) can get pregnant even if not forced and just willing to go through that process "without" getting any pleasure out of it!!! and that is the question why is it not needed?  
Anyone???

Comments by: momin On 27 April 2011Report Abuse
Respectable sister "UmeAimon"  
 
You said,"Why women don’t need pleasure to reproduce?"  
Is it so.I don't think so. I couldn't understand.  
 
 
 
 

Comments by: Nargis2 On 27 April 2011Report Abuse
Oh dear i understood your question now, your right, why would women go through the process even though its not giving any pleasure,,and why is this pleasure not needed,,,i got it wrong first, sorri :D

Comments by: William On 28 April 2011Report Abuse
First of all, I would like to apologise to anyone who finds this post offensive and crude. It is by no means intended to upset anyone. We are all adults here and should be able to discuss such matters openly. I had to clarify a few things, hence another response from me.  
 
Dear Mubashir,  
 
You have stated:  
 
“Its not Sex is man made but PLEASURE ASSOCIATED WITH SEX IS MANMADE”.  
 
“Pleasure associated with sex” is not man-made at all. The physical pleasure is very real and is perfectly natural. I think you’re unable to explain fully what it is you mean, as you then go onto state:  
 
“Manmade as in exaggerated to commercialize it not only for money but to induce a WEAKNESS in Human.”  
 
This makes more sense, and I think this is what you actually mean. In my previous post, I have stated that I agree with this, it is commercialised by enterprises and major corporations who literally sell sex in one way or another! It is literally drilled into the minds of individuals, who see sex in a completely different light – thinking sex is everything, and literally living for sex. They will do anything to acquire sex, no matter how much it harms themselves and others. I think this is what you are trying to say.  
 
You then go onto state:  
 
“Plz think over concepts you conveyed for animals they need some more R&D. No even animals have choice which they select based on their need and capacity”  
 
I have stated that animals become aware of when they are to reproduce. Depending on the species, certain behaviours prompt animals making them aware of when it is time to reproduce. They are able to choose who they mate; a female may choose a dominant male to pair with.  
 
Dear UmeAimon,  
 
I think I finally understood your question!  
 
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Regardless of whether the female receives pleasure or not, why must females be involved in the reproduction cycle?  
 
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Life on planet Earth involves reproduction. Most living creatures reproduce – a male and female mate and produce offspring.  
 
The male must plant the seed. He would therefore need an incentive / encouragement to do so. Hence hormones and physical urges would entice him to commit the act.  
 
The female (who may or may not receive pleasure) has little to do during this stage. During pregnancy, her body would be used as a vessel that helps nurture and develop the zygote into a baby. This is in the genetic makeup of a female, whether human or animal. The female’s body is designed to carry out this particular function.  
 
Why she chooses to partake in the reproduction process, is beyond my comprehension as I am not a woman. I cannot comment as I would be speculating. However, if you want my opinion, it is down to maternal instincts and perhaps hormones. Humans have free will and if a female wants children then she would need to be involved.  
 
I realise now that this does not fully answer your query - I hope you find the answers you are looking for.  
 
Thank you  
 
 
 

Comments by: Iqbal kay shaheen On 29 April 2011Report Abuse
I must say this subject of sex has been the most intriguing part in my life, simply because from childhood I have witnessed absurd behaviors regarding it. Cutting the long story short my unwavering search lead me to Alfred C. Kinsey and his main publications of “Sexual behavior in the human male and Female”.  
 
Hereby I am merely asking permission to reproduce Chapter 1.  
Subheadings for this chapter go like this.  
Scope of the study  
Historical background  
The scientific objective  
The right to investigate  
The individual’s right to know  
Problems of Marital adjustment  
Sexual problems of unmarried youth  
Sexual education of Children  
Social control of sexual behavior  
The incidence of sex offenses  
The sex offender  
Effective sex law  
The protection of the individual  
 
I am pretty sure that it will make a very interesting read for all. This may get to be 11 odd pages, hence asking for permission.  
Thanks.  

Comments by: Mubashir Syed On 29 April 2011Report Abuse
Dear Iqbal, umm i think u can post each subheading in one post by initiating a new question. Or you can put your understanding in short for each subheading. Please post that under a new question so as to have all data under one umbrella.  
 
Note : Can i get his material online. If yes plz post the link.  
 
Thanks,  
Mubashir Syed.

Comments by: Iqbal kay shaheen On 29 April 2011Report Abuse
Note : Can i get his material online. If yes plz post the link. by mubashir  
 
NO, thats why got the visa card and bought them from amazon.com  
 
I will do it, someone asked earlier that if webmaster could create a sort of library space where participants could upload this type of rare finds in our own digital library etc. I also have Allama pervez's Matalibul Quraan fi duroosel Furqaan 30th Para. What a jewel that is too. I would rather scan the whole book and make it a pdf then load it, I am on it we see where it leads. For now i will type it out and post it in this very same thread.  
 
Thanks.

Comments by: UmeAimon On 01 May 2011Report Abuse
Salam and thanks William for answering the question..  
 
The question is not about the reason a female is involved but about how she can get pregnant WIthout having any pleasure out of it! and NO there is no maternal instinct before the female actually gets pregnant, it could be the society that keeps raising women to soley serve this DUTY. Actually many dont get it even after the baby is born and thus go into this post natal depression, but most females sense it and it grows as the baby is born and latches on to her. I know hundreds of women like that.  
 
The point is sex along with pleasures associated with it come long before any of all this! So if a man needs some kind of motivation why not a female who has to suffer mostly because of this part of anatomy she DID not choose to be born with? Also that would mean the purpose of this pleasure is actually reproduction nothing else, isn't it?  
 
If we say its like that for women because :Then she gets to have a baby! ohh after so much pain and trouble, making her weaker, uglier and more vulnarable in the hands of the male counter part and the baby will still get his father's name! Or that she gets a status in the society of being a mother! Are these encouragements good enough or justifiable?  
 
I dont think so because having a baby is not the end and one gets the fruits of being a mother or a parent when one dedicate his her life in raising a child, and it could be any child.  
 
So I'll keep wondering ...... Anyone??

Comments by: Mubashir Syed On 02 May 2011Report Abuse
Dear UmeAimon, your last sentence of above post is fabulous. I have no words but to salute you for this.  
 
"I dont think so because having a baby is not the end and one gets the fruits of being a mother or a parent when one dedicate his her life in raising a child, and it could be any child. " by UmeAimon.  
 
Mubashir : I hope this Pleasure of raising a child is REPLACED with Pleasure of having sex for evolving. Pleasure to take guardianship of one or two or three or four, if not atleast one orphan.....  
 
Dear Williams, I tried to comment on your feed back under below link just to keep things under one thread....  
 
http://aastana.com/blog/aastanablog.asp?MID=3&SID=29&QID=609  
 
Thanks,  
Mubashir Syed.  
 
 
 

Comments by: dawood On 03 May 2011 Edit DeleteReport Abuse
SA, Dear Sister Ume Aimon and others: Very nice and thought provoking question for which I have no answer yet. I however do think that (1) nature does not do anything without a real purpose and need, and (2) those dealing with human sexuality and evolution may have some answer to your question.  
Dawood

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